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Personal attacks are bad moves...
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...and one reason I have a problem with "homeless advocates." They seem to shoot themselves (and by association, the homeless that they're "helping") with these distasteful grandstanding tactics. It makes you wonder whether they might not be unable to get funding because they keep doing stuff like this, "Nickelsville," etc., instead of having a couple of people who know how to work WITH the City and other agencies...? |
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Michael
11 months ago
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BS extortionist tactics
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How counterproductive can this group get, harassing an outgoing Mayor? I have little sympathy with their handout demands. When 8 bleeding-heart-liberal Council members look you in the eye and say they're not going to give you more money, that should be your clue to re-assess your tactics. |
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Fed up
11 months ago
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give me convenience or give me death
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@1 & 2: You are right: They should hire a high price PR firm to get their message out. That is also what the civil right movement should have done, or the people that got you your weekend and 8 hour day. After all, convenience is a God given right in America. Reality is much too inconvenient. |
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hmmmm
11 months ago
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Nickels had a chance to do the right thing...
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| At the budget hearings at the beginning of the year, SHARE put in a request for $50,000 to fill the budget gap left from 2008. The "Green Sheet" was in on time and the votes needed to pass it were garnered. Mayor Nickels made the "Green Sheet" disappear. SHARE didn't get the monies needed, which has led us to this point. While I don't support this particular action, I do support SHARE. SHARE provides the most shelter beds in King County and does it for half the cost or more than any other provider. Some bed nights cost upwards of $20 or more. SHARE does it for about $3.50 per bednight. While everyone argues over the politics of this thing, 500+ people will sleep safe tonight. When all else is said and done, Women In Black will not have to stand in front of city hall for those people. In the end that is all that matters. | |
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James
11 months ago
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inaccurate representation
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"Nickelsville, a separate group of homeless people, ...encampment it created in a Port of Seattle park, also as a protest against more money not being spent to house the homeless." This statement from the original article is incorrect. Nickelsville is NOT primarily a protest about the funding of services for the homeless. The Nickelodeans are acutely aware of the current economic reality. Public entities are cutting their budgets. Individuals are cutting their budgets. Everyone is making do with less. Nickelsville's objective is really very simple and straight forward. They want to simply be allowed to use (NOT acquire ownership of) a piece of land for housing the homeless, until enough permanent affordable units become available. Through their own ingenuity they will construct simple structures to shelter themselves. They are NOT asking anyone to GIVE them a piece of land. They are not asking to be provided with any services at public expense. They cover all their costs through private donations. This seems to me to be a very pragmatic solution to a very real situation. Why not let them use some vacant parcel of land? How about one of those county parks that are due to be closed? That would even save public money. No need for building a fence and other costs of mothballing a park. |
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educate yourself
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People need a place to sleep
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| I wonder when people are getting sick from having no place to sleep at will Nickels say it is a "publicity stunt." | |
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Responses to the criticisms
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I was also at the Mayor's house covering the story my independent site, CoJourn.net. In it you can find SHARE's and homeless' responses to the some of the criticisms here and other sites. Although the piece relays their points of view, it is not meant to be biased on their behalf. All comments, critisms, and questions are welcomed and encouraged. http://cojourn.net/wordpress Thank you Kerry for the link. |
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Shelter is a fundamental right
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Any society that can deny food and shelter to anyone is on a downward slide to disaster. The $50,000 is a pittance. One rule for the super rich and another for everyone else. For those that oppose - try losing your jobs/income/savings/home/ support networks/ etc. and surviving on your own. Try having compassion for the afflicted/addicted. Many have died on the streets. Do we need any more to die? |
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Ivy Rose Nightscales
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If you wanted to make a difference
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The most terrible thing about the protest is the way those staying at any share Shelter or those wanting to come stay at one are being told it is camp out for the direct action or get out. Seattle paid this shelter system 300,000 dollars this year and does not a thing to prevent this violation of basic civil and constitutional rights in regards to those who may choose not to do this protest. So I am guessing the city council people must enjoy the company outside their homes. No other landlord in the world can make its tenants protest against the very city providing the bulk of the funding for the place or get out - unless the residents are shelter residents in Seattle staying with SHARE. This protest is not being run in a truely consentual manner. Those who want to do this protest should have the right to. Those who do not should have equal right to not have to and still keep their shelter. Seattle please stop funding any organization that violates the rights of the people it claims to serve. Right now the city finds itself in a terrible financial jam. And there are a growing number of homeless people needing shelter. No matter what you may read in the press that the recession is ending - don't believe the bull. How about the city of Seattle give some major tax breaks to the owners of some of these huge warehouses that sit empty if they help with providing the use of their building for a few months at a time as temporary shelters? Some say they don't want a tent city in their backyard - okay how about in an industrial area then and have the people inside where you don't have to see them and they can stay warm and dry? Doesn't it make sense to encourage people to feel inspired to let those in need use the building resources that are already there and sitting vacant? Then the churches and city could help with utilties for inside space and decrease the chances of people freezing. What if we helped the homeless and helped a business at the same time.. It is time for people to sit down and talk about creative solutions that are not just handouts and that do not permit the violation of any homeless person's basic rights as citizens. You know some of the homeless want to work and just can't find jobs - if you happen to have any odd around the house or around the business work that you would rather just pay someone else to do - why not hire someone who really really needs the work? Maybe you could hire someone for a day to get that yard really looking fantastic and pay them enough to buy their own monthly $2 zone bus pass? Helping yourself while helping another! This is how we can at least help one person here and there.. The number for Tent City 4 is 206-618-3901 The number for Tent City 3 is 206-399-0412 Now those at Tent City 4 have been Id checked and have been checked for outstanding warrants and sex offender status - unlike those at Tent City 3- but you can possibly find someone to hire to help you out today at a reasonable rate... I have met some pretty wonderful people who sure would love to have the chance to earn a days wages if given half a chance.. And it won't be a handout. Let the homeless show you they are just trying to make it like just like you would in their position!! Don't assume you know what all homeless people are like - you just might be amazed at who might be homeless these days.. Also feel free to donate to both tent cities - good quality interview clothes for both genders that you might not be using - blankets - non-used camping equipement - good quality shoes (FYI Tent city 4 at the Holy Spirit Lutheran Church in Kirkland has a lady who could really use a pair or two of ladies size 14 shoes. Your donation today could directly help a person tonight and you can get a tax write off as well! |
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What 2 bus tickets helped do
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I do not support this forced protest by SHARE aka Scott Morrow. However, I just wanted to share a story with you all about the power of bus tickets. I met this beautiful older African American woman at the Woman's Wellness center who was staying at an inside actual bed shelter. She was doing her hair and nails and was very stressed out about an upcoming job interview. I asked her what was up and she shared with me how badly she just wanted to get to work again and yet she was having such a hard time getting anyone to help her with bus tickets to even get to the job interview. I referred her to the HIP project ( Homeless Intervention Project) figuring surely with her having solid job interview set up they would help her get there. The case manager gave her a form to apply for reduced fare bus pass due to her age/health but gave no help with actual tickets to the interview. The disabled senior bus pass costs a mere $3 with a monthly Orcas bus fare of just $9 and yet she could find no one to help her with this fare to get a job to get out of homelessness. The day before the interview when no one had helped her - I made my investment in this woman. I knew in this economy the chances that she would land the job when she had only one interview in God only knows how long was slim - but I felt damn it she wants to work so much - she deserves this break. I covered her bus fair to and from the interview myself telling her if she gets the job she owe me a Starbucks venti Vanilla Latte and some serious prayers. I have a latte coming and someone is praying for me now - Guess who landed that job! Damn that was a good investment. But no one would help this woman get to the interview. A woman who wanted to get a job faced an inability to get there - but she had foodstamps.. Let us help those who want to work get to those jobs!! She had been on the verge of selling her food stamps to get bus fair to be able to get to a job interview. Just 2 bus fares helped this woman be able to help herself better. Sure the job is at mimimum wage and is only part time - but I wish you could all see how much happier she looks when I see her the working woman now! SHARE's violation of the rights of privacy, freedom of speech, freedom of relgion and freedom of political philosophy of its residents to include myself is not right and should be stopped. But people bus fair is vital in helping homeless people no longer be homeless! Let us help people get working! What if those on foodstamps who had no jobs were given a bus pass as part of their good stamps so they could find work sooner and get off the food stamps sooner?? Or what if those on food stamps were given the option to have their food stamps reduced by the amount of the monthly pass they needed to get a job to get off the food stamps? It is time for solutions that help people get it done. No one should have to sell their food stamps to pay SHARE for mandated summer donations to raise money/ donations for their Fall Harvest and no one should have to sell their food stamps in order to get to a job interview. |
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