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Zoo fires back against attack by "fringe group of local activists"
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Little Hansa Was Very Sad
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I have never forgotten how sad Hansa was moving in her little exhibit yard obviously trying to find something to do and someone to play with. There was never anything for her to do and no other little elephants to play with. A friend of mine saw her beaten with a bullhook one day when he took his kids to the zoo. The keeper came after her with that awful stick and she ran screaming in pain out into the public viewing area. All she was trying to do was play with this empty little pail. And then we saw on the news that she died in the middle of the night before her seventh birthday. What a tragic life she had. It's terrible that with such a deadly virus at their zoo they would try to put another baby elephant in the same danger. If there's such a thing as karma, the zoo's karma can't be good. |
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Mariana
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Animal Advocates Respond to Zoo Misinformation
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I would like to respond to some statements made by Woodland Park Zoo in this article. A Zoo spokeswoman stated that our group’s agenda was to eliminate zoos. That is not true. We have asked the USDA to end the zoo’s Asian elephant breeding program because we do not want to see another innocent calf die the same gruesome death from elephant herpes that Hansa experienced. An expert elephant veterinarian shared our concerns that the zoo’s ongoing Asian elephant breeding program would have a high probability of resulting in another tragic death. The Zoo also claims that “EEHV is not just a disease of elephants in captivity.Every elephant worldwide – in the wild and in zoos – potentially has one or more herpesvirus,” That may be true, but it is predominantly captive Asian elephants under 10 years old in zoos and circuses who are dying from these viruses. In fact, the deaths have reached an epidemic level. Zoo industry statistics show that of those Asian elephants born in zoos over the last ten years or so, about 75% of them are now dead, over half from herpesviruses. Scientific literature states that there have been no herpes outbreaks among wild Asian elephants. Finally, the Zoo claims that the “theory that Asian elephants get these diseases from African elephants has been debunked by recent data collected by EEHV researchers.” Really? Two of Woodland Park Zoo’s veterinarians and the head of the National Herpes Laboratory recently co-authored an article in which Hansa’s death from herpes was discussed and in which they acknowledged that “comingling of [Asian and African elephants] or mechanical transfer between species are among the suspected routes of exposure [of herpesviruses]” (Clinico-pathologic Features of Fatal Disease Attributed to New Variants of Endotheliotropic Herpesviruses in Two Asian Elephants, Vet. Path. 46:97-104 (2009). That article was published just a few months ago. In addition, current Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) guidelines, state that “Asian and African elephants should not be placed together in the same enclosure. Herpes viruses endemic to one species can be fatal in the other.” (AZA Guidelines, 3.2.13). Current elephant veterinary textbooks also caution against housing the two species together because of the herpes risk and make the point that young Asian elephants particularly should be protected from exposure to African elephants (Biology, Medicine, and Surgery of Elephants, Fowler & Mikota, Pg. 133, (2006). It is disappointing that Woodland Park Zoo has chosen to demonize the messengers rather than respond to the solid scientific evidence presented by animal advocates in this case. Nancy Farnam, Director Sound Animal Rights Alliance (SARA) |
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Nancy Farnam
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Elephant Breeding Program at WPZ
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| It is ethically wrong to breed elephants in captivity. Hansa's tragic death should be a warning and if history repeats itself, a newborn elephant would suffer the same fate as Hansa with this herpes virus lurking. The zoo must do the right thing and stop this insane breeding program. I applaud any group trying to stop them. It is so pathetic to see the WPZ elephants with no room to roam and prisoners for life. WPZ must not bring another doomed elephant into this world. | |
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Claudine Erlandson
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breeding in captivity
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| The only reason wild animals should be bred in captivity is if they are going to be released into the wild and they should also only be on the verge of extinction. | |
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Mary Owens
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Experts: only valuable when they agree with the WPZ?
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For years I've followed the sad story of Bamboo, they way she was shuffled around, etc. So I finally travelled west (from Ohio) to visit this zoo, & she WAS a very unhappy elephant. Then along comes sweet little Hansa...Now that the zoo knows more about this virus, and with no cure, they still want to breed? Is it really all about the $$ that babies bring in? So what about Dr. Conrad, an accomplished vet, but she doesn't agree with the zoo, so they won't listen. I don't believe groups are trying to shut down the zoo, they just want the zoo to do the 'right thing' for their animals, espcially the elephants. If another baby is born, and dies from this virus, no karma in the world will be able to help them. |
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Zoo Didn't Care About Hansa
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| If Woodland Park Zoo beat Hansa for playing with an empty bucket and exposed her to a recognized herpes risk (ie. an African elephant), then they couldn't have cared much about her. I'm really shocked by this story. And now they want to have another "Hansa" born into this same danger? It just doesn't make any sense! I wouldn't send my kids to school if I knew the place was infected with the swine flu. It seems to me this is the same type thing. Even a vet, Dr. Conrad, says it's too dangerous for the zoo to continue breeding elephants there. What's the matter with Woodland Park Zoo? This is very disturbing! | |
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Kerri
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Zoos Will Do Anything To Have Babies For The Crowds
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Funny that all the science I read about elephants has not changed a bit since I started reading in 1998. ASIAN elephants are still susceptible to a horrible death when they contract the strain of herpes virus that comes from what are harmless exterior lesions (to the African elephant) on the outside of an AFRICAN elephants body! Woodland Park Zoo is making a blatant statement that they plan to continue gambling with the lives of baby asian elephants they produce and the mothers, as if they are saying.....So what? It is a disgrace that they intend to keep African elephant, Watoto, on the premises and continue their asian program. It isn't bad enough that zoos everywhere are having failures with their breeding programs from all kinds of problems including herpes virus. There are mother elephants walking around with dead calves inside. There are stillborn calves. There are calves that die shortly after birth. These problems are all rare in the wild. Sure, maybe an occasional problem, but no regularity as seen in zoo breeding. You would think they would realize something is wrong. You would think it would occur to the zoo people.....what is the major difference between them and the wild? It is pretty obvious to me.......LOTS OF LAND SPACE AND PRIVACY AND NO ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION!!! The elephants seem to know how to take care of the rest! It is time they leave these animals alone. Stop the torturous obtaining semen and implanting eggs. The public, in general, is unaware of what is done to these animals behind the scenes to produce those crowd grabbing cute little babies, while all the adults live frustrating boring lives inside an artificial small prison. |
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Captive elephants deserve better.
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| Unfortunately, too small a percentage of people are aware of what goes on behind closed doors of zoos. Even worse, most people just don't care. Just as most people prefer not to know about how their meat is slaughtered, most people don't care about the pathetic lives of zoo animals. I will never go to another zoo unless it is to promote better care for the animals. The last time I went to a zoo, I cried openly as I witnessed so much despair, boredom, loneliness, etc. It seems the elephants endure the worst. Giant, social creatures locked in a small cement cage for life. We should not have to artificially impregnate a wild animal to save it. What we have done to this planet and its wildlife is deplorable to say the least. And I do not condone the obvious malpractice by the Woodland Park Zoo. It is not in the best interest of the animals when you expose the young to a potentially lethal virus. Hansa suffered unnecessarily and her death should be an example of what NOT to do. Yet, they want to continue this farce? I am completely disheartened by humans and frankly I wish we could exterminate the human race and give the planet back to the animals, plants, etc. We have destroyed in 100 years what Mother Nature took billions of years to create. I am ashamed to be a human... | |
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Zoos Violated Cardinal Rule
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| Any zoologist worth their salt will tell you how dangerous it is to house species together that have had no historical exposure to one another. There is always the danger of a disease that is endemic to one species killing another species because they have no immunity, not having been exposed to it before. This appears to be what's happened in the case of elephant herpes. Viruses endemic to African elephants have been jumping to Asian elephants that have had no exposure to them and are killing the most vulnerable members of the species, the young who have immature immune systems. This has been industry-wide negligence by the zoos. They've known since 1995 that these viruses are extremely dangerous for young Asian elephants and haven't done anything about it. They've ignored their own industry's guidelines, the warnings of epidemiologists and ethical veterinarians like Dr. Conrad. And still, they arrogantly and recklessly continue to breed Asian elephants in herpes-infected zoos. And the USDA has done a miserable job of enforcing the Animal Welfare Act (AWA). They look at exhibitors such as zoos as their "customers" and are not motivated to enforce the AWA. It is absolutely criminal what zoos have been allowed to get away with and most of the public is completely ignorant of what's going on. | |
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breed new elephants to avoid extinction not for money please
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| The truth is that i live oceans away but such matter should be known worldwide when it concerns ethics of living even for animals! After all, we coexist with them in this planet!Breed new elephants in proper conditions to have a healthy life and not for money please! Respect any form of living creature! | |
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Captive Elephants
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Those who call people like myself "fringe" are obviously disparate to distract people unaware of their practices. By painting people who are only trying to save elephants from environments they shouldn't be in in the first place is a cheap shot, grasping at straws if you will. Most people would agree that animals as complex and large as elephants do not belong in small circuses and zoos. Woodland's defense on how elephants obtain viruses in the wild, as well is true, but they also have the proper population to support that percentage of loss, its called the eco system. I am sure they have heard of this. I got a chuckle when reading the article "Zoo Fires Back", where the spokeswoman Gigi Allianic for the Woodlands Zoo, had to combine the experience of all their staff to defend their gross neglect of the elephants in their facility. Another weak defense. The veterinarians and scientist who defend keeping these animals in captivity are only doing so for their own selfish desire to experiment on them, kinda sick when you really look at their rational. They claim it is to help them, but at what cost? Who's being extrem here? Pretty extrem to keep an large exotic animal locked up and experiment on it, only to have it die due to a technical error, wouldn't you say?. I say if they really cared for these animals they would pack up and study them in their natural environments where they can only get true and accurate results. Then they may start to make a positive change in these animals lives. Look at the impact Jacque Cousteau made, all without keeping a whale or dolphins in his backyard swimming pool! |
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No MORE!
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| Just sick, knowingly exposing that baby girl to an infected male. They are trying to get publicity with a baby, nothing more. Obviously no consideration for the animals themselves. SHUT IT DOWN. Zoos are prisons for animals. Irresponsible zoos should be shut down completly. | |
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Elephants & Herpes
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| Zoo's now no longer custodians of our threatened wildlife, resort to any measures to attract paying customers to keep the owners fat! Even breeding between sub species, no matter what the risk of spreading infections! Interbreeding has serious risks as the different species dont have the built up immunity against their relatives' infections! A good example is aids which spread when humans started interbreeding!? If the animal died from herpes, how can they say they protect their animals??? Close them down! | |
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EEHV a risk to the calf and pregnancy a risk to Chai
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The EEHV virus is of no real threat to elephants in the wild, only to those in captivity caused by the zoo industry. It's time the USDA steps in to protect the elephants by stopping the breeding of elephants until zoos can provide infection control and a cure. Woodland Park Zoo has no way to keep a calf from being exposed to EEHV since her own mother is likely a carrier. Furthermore, Chai has been inseminated 50 times prior to Hansa's birth and 6 times after (whcih resulted in two miscarriages). It is irresponsible and unethical for the the Zoo to put Chai and a calf at such a great risk. Alyne Fortgang Friends of Woodland Park Zoo Elephants |
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Stop the breeding program now!
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| It's a shame! Stop this program NOW! | |
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Zoo Needs to Stop Lying to the Public
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| Woodland Park Zoo must think people are idiots. The lies they have told so they can continue their breeding program are ridiculous. I checked on the citations that Nancy Farnam of SARA gave in her comment refuting the claims by the zoo. She was absolutely right! They admitted in the article she cited that housing Asian and African elephants together is believed to be a major way these viruses are transmitted to young Asian elephants who are then getting sick like Hansa and dying. Also, I checked the AZA guidelines. Farnam was also right about that. And it seems to me that the facts about Hansa and Watoto prove these guidelines against housing the two species together are justified. Woodland Park Zoo needs to get real! They're lying to the public and killing innocent young elephants and want to continue doing so. That's despicable! | |
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Hansa
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| My daughter and I both love Elephants and were thrilled at Hansa's birth. We live in Vancouver, British Columbia and made a special trip to Seattle to see her. When we visited we were taken aback at her and her mom's living conditions. It made us both very sad that they had such a small, stark area and they both seemed very subdued and unhappy. We were devastated at Hansa's death. Why hasn't humanity gotten past breeding majestic animals into lives of incarceration and misery? Please do not allow the Woodland Park Zoo to breed any more elephants. | |
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i am so sick and tired of all this inhumane nonsense these animals are put through. i think its time for new leaders and managers to come in as the ones that are in now are not doing it right. |
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i am so sick and tired of all this inhumane nonsense these animals are put through. i think its time for new leaders and managers to come in as the ones that are in now are not doing it right. |
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i am so sick and tired of all this inhumane nonsense these animals are put through. i think its time for new leaders and managers to come in as the ones that are in now are not doing it right. |
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Woodland Park Zoo and elephant breeding program
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| I'm appalled at the zoo knowingly tries to breed their Asian elephant with a herpes-infected African elephant, since the outcome could in fact kill the potential offspring, as it it did in the case of Hansa, the elephant who died 2 years ago. I think that Woodland Park Zoo should terminate their breeding program instantly and not jeopardise the life of their Asian elephant, Chai or any other elephants for that matter. | |
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Breeding elephants in zoos
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| How is breeding elephants in zoos conserving the species if elephant calves are dying left and right from the herpes virus? It is a death sentence for these baby elephants. As baby elephants do draw the visitors, it is obvious that the zoo only cares about how much money they can rake in by having a baby elephant on exhibit .... and if the baby elephant should succumb to the virus and die, they just breed another female and in two years they will have another moneymaker. Breeding in zoos has nothing to do with conserving the species ... it's just a guarantee that the $$$ keep rolling in. | |
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Where Has the Zoo's Infection Control Been?!
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As a person with a scientific background with extensive experience in infection control, I am aghast at the apparent absence of any concept of infection control at Woodland Park Zoo. I do believe we have a serious case here of negligence by the zoo which caused the death of Hansa. I found her necropsy report online which showed that young elephant must have suffered horribly as she was dying. Her liver swelled to over 4x its normal size, ulceration throughout her stomach and intestinal tract, heavy involvement by the virus in her heart and kidneys as well as her blood vesself. Even the retinas of her eyes were attacked by the virus. If the African elephant is infected with the same virus and young Asian elephants are the most susceptible to dying from them, it is shocking that the zoo would even contemplate introducing another Asian calf into this environment. Under no circumstance should that happen. |
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Elephant breeding is greed
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| Breeding elephants in captivity is not a conservation effort-- it is a zoo money making effort. Protect habitat and employ anti-poaching teams. This is the only hope for elephants in the future. | |
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Who are the experts again???
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FROM ABOVE ARTICLE: Additional evidence obtained from Woodland Park Zoo confirms that the zoo’s African elephant, Watoto, is infected with the same virus that killed Hansa, EEHV3, the press release said. “With Hansa’s death, the Zoo was on notice that they had this deadly virus at their facility but continued trying to breed Chai anyway through artificial insemination,” said Farnam. “Confirmation of Watoto’s infection proves that any Asian elephant calf born at the Zoo would be exposed to the virus every day,” added Farnam. The Zoo has not announced that it has ended its elephant-breeding program. “We have to assume they plan to still pursue breeding,” said Farnam. OBVIOUSLY, THE ZOO HAS NO CONCERN FOR THEIR ELEPHANTS - AND THEIR PARENT, THE 'AZA' REALLY SHOULD STEP UP AND PUT A HALT TO THIS NONSENSE, ESP IN A KNOWN INFECTED FACILITY. I HAVE TO ALSO WONDER - WHERE IS THE "PUBLIC" OUTCRY? |
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Free the Elephants
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| The Elephants need to be free in yours environement! Stop the cages,stop this unecessary suffer! Set them free in a sanctuary or in a savage forest without humans! Let them live their lifes alone without us! | |
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IT'S THE USDA THAT NEEDS TO STEP UP
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Yazzie: "...AND THEIR PARENT, THE 'AZA' REALLY SHOULD STEP UP AND PUT A HALT TO THIS NONSENSE... Yazzie, it's the USDA that needs to step up to the plate. The AZA is nothing but a trade organization for the zoo industry. It's their agenda to breed elephants so they won't run out of them to bring people in to pay admission fees. And apparently they don't care how many baby elephants they kill to do it. A totally selfish, self-serving mentality in most zoos. Really sickening. |
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Woodland Park Zoo Lying About Herpes Transmission
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This appeared in the NY Times in February. So much for Woodland Park Zoo's claims that transmission between African and Asian elephants has been ruled out. According to this article, the head of the Herpes Lab doesn't know how it's transmitted. “We’re still trying to figure out the epidemiology,” said Laura Richman, the research associate who heads the Smithsonian laboratory... “We’re still trying to figure out how it’s transmitted, and why certain elephants die and others don’t.” Ms. Richman, who first identified the virus in 1995, says that many mature elephants may carry a latent form of the disease but that calves may be more susceptible because their immune systems are not fully developed." |
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ZOO KILLING FIELDS
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| The babies are dying from herpes and birth complications. The adults are dying from zoogenic arthritis, foot infections, TB, etc. Zoos are truly one of the killing fields for elephants. How can they misrepresent this horrible travesty as having anything at all to do with elephant conservation? | |
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The zoo doesn't care about these animals
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| They are nothing but commodities to the zoo. No good decisions for the elephants (or any other animal at the zoo) will be made from that mindset. The public needs to wake up and realize that zoos are not noble insitutions. They're a kind of show business much like circuses and both zoos and circuses treat these animals really bad. These elephants need to "get outa Dodge" before another baby elephant winds up dead. Remember Hansa! | |
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Elephants are symbols of freedom
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| No elephant should be in confined captivity. They are the symbols of freedom. Let the Woodland Park Zoo elephants go to the sanctuary. It is a spiritual violation to keep them held as prisoners, suffering for the selfishness of human beings. Free them now or suffer the spiritual consequences. | |
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Zoos need to evolve too
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The zoo could be a leader here, as they have been in the past. I remember it being very exciting when the new elephant habitat opened, just thinking how we'd get to see the elephants and they would have a happy safe place to live. Research and data have given us new information now and we must face the facts that elephants do not belong in our zoo. I am angered and fed up with Woodland Park Zoo's management. Let the elephants go, and the management too. We need new leadership at the zoo. P.S. I am a mother who has never been categorized as a fringe activist, so get clear on that. Many, many people (including Seattlites) agree that elephants deserve our respect and admiration for the magnificent and unique creatures they are. |
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